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It's interesting how among the country voices there was the fondness and sweet spot for mothers, including the prison songs and most important, Will the Circle, and then there were those whose mothers ranged from cruel to neglectful and many "who done r-u-n o-f-t". Of course that's not confined to the country music world but it's sure shows up there a lot. Speaking of mothers (and avoiding invoking David Alan Coe/Steve Goodman) I wish they had given a nod to Jerry Jeff's "Redneck Mother" when they discussed "Okie from Muskogee". One of my favorite college bands always played those two songs as a medley. It's interesting how among the country voices there was the fondness and sweet spot for mothers, including the prison songs and most important, Will the Circle, and then there were those whose mothers ranged from cruel to neglectful and many "who done r-u-n o-f-t". Of course that's not confined to the country music world but it's sure shows up there a lot. Speaking of mothers (and avoiding invoking David Alan Coe/Steve Goodman) I wish they had given a nod to Jerry Jeff's "Redneck Mother" when they discussed "Okie from Muskogee". One of my favorite college bands always played those two songs as a medley. Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
Post by dool on Sept 21, 2019 21:25:33 GMT -5
If you have not been watching this it is amazing. Ken Burns does such a great job yet again. Here are the first 4 episodes. The last 4 start tomorrow night. Enjoy!!!!
www.pbs.org/kenburns/country-music/episode-guide#all-episodes
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 22, 2019 6:24:03 GMT -5
I've been posting about it in "what are you watching" It is outstanding.
"History of County Music" last night featured the singing cowboys, Bob Wills, the introduction of the pedal steel, the ASCAP/BMI issues, and the Grand Ol' Oprey. And as has been the case in the first episode, the Carter family weaves its influence throughout the story.
Tonight--Hank Williams!
It was a strange juxtaposition when I flipped the channel from that show to Glastonbury 2017 and Foo Fighters. The documentary keeps insisting that all American popular music is derived from country/blues (and how close they are to each other) but sweaty growling Dave Grohl didn't seem to be affected by it!
ETA: The Hank Williams was outstanding and those amazing songs he just rolled out like taking dictation from God. I think his birthday was yesterday. Died at 29, a very tragic figure, and no where near his peak.
Also great Chet Atkins, one of the top guitarists of all times; Tubbs, Flat and Scruggs who changed the music by playing it JRAD speed; Kitty Wells starting the "strong woman" aspect with It Wasn't God who made Honky Tonk Angels. You'll recognize the tune; it's written as a reply to The Wild Side of Life and is taken from "Blues Eyes" and "Great Speckled Bird".
Tonight I think they will go into Johnny Cash and Elvis.
Read more: locknforum.com/thread/2717/watching?page=8#ixzz60Ffcs2ro
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 23, 2019 7:45:25 GMT -5
last night we had Merle Haggard's story and Bakersfield (one of my favorite sounds); powerful and ground-breaking women esp. Loretta Lynn; the section about Charlie Pride breaking the color barrier about moved me to tears. Dylan/Cash relationship.
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Post by kuriti on Sept 23, 2019 9:56:57 GMT -5
I'm watching on the PBS app on Roku, but just finished episode 2. Fun stuff as I was raised in West Texas and thus country is in my DNA even if I can't stand the modern incarnation. My wife's family goes back to the revolutionary war in SC/NC mountains. She was raised on all the mountain music so she has enjoyed these as well.last night we had Merle Haggard's story and Bakersfield (one of my favorite sounds); powerful and ground-breaking women esp. Loretta Lynn; the section about Charlie Pride breaking the color barrier about moved me to tears. Dylan/Cash relationship.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 23, 2019 11:03:10 GMT -5
I doubt--at least, hope--this series won't feature any of the "modern incarnation" aka Bro Country, or if it does, it's not to praise it. I think the series covers up to 1996.
But popular country has always tracked pop music styles, just several years late; lots of the country in the 90's had some disco feel; later the bro country was just hard rock with lyrics about trucks; a few years ago when I happened to hear frequently pop country I was appalled to hear rap/urban creeping in. I think we'll hear about Waylon and the "outlaw" sound being criticized as not country enough. Every year at the CMA (which is always the worst music) someone says "it's not real country like it was 10 years ago" but they've said that every year for 40 years!
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 23, 2019 21:21:51 GMT -5
tonight bookends Will The Circle Be Unbroken
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Post by dool on Sept 23, 2019 21:59:27 GMT -5
George Jones's daddy was a real piece of shit
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 24, 2019 5:45:30 GMT -5
got a whole new appreciation for Kristofferson, who I previously (wrongly) regarded as a two-hit-by-other-people wonder. The accolades by the others in the music business were amazing, and his background--college educated Rhodes scholar chucks it all to be a janitor in a Nashville recording studio....
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Post by looseankles on Sept 24, 2019 7:59:09 GMT -5
Hearing about the letter his mother wrote to him was heartbreaking.got a whole new appreciation for Kristofferson, who I previously (wrongly) regarded as a two-hit-by-other-people wonder. The accolades by the others in the music business were amazing, and his background--college educated Rhodes scholar chucks it all to be a janitor in a Nashville recording studio....
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 24, 2019 8:15:12 GMT -5
So tonight's episode of "History of Country Music" closed with, as the Deadheads would say, WTCBU, and discussed the importance of that work in reviving country/bluegrass and more important, keeping it relevant and significant among the young audience otherwise gravitating to straight rock or tepid folk. The younger artists brought in the old guard not to back them up but to lead them. Acuff relented and joined in. The program notes that it didn't sell all that well, but that it is one of the most respected works of the genre. To me, it's a national treasure.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 24, 2019 8:30:30 GMT -5
I like hearing from Dwight Yoakum; he is touring if you want to see some Bakersfield music. At the National in Richmond Nov. 7.
Also Marty Stuart is heavily featured--he is a real student and historian of the music as well as a good musician; I commend his recent album Saturday Night/Sunday Morning--a double CD set where the first (Saturday) is raucous bar music and the second (Sunday) is church--also raucous!
Riannon Giddens, of the Carolina Chocolate Drops, also featured, is very knowledgeable about the music, culture and historical path of both, with interesting view about how the banjo, a "black" instrument, is now seen as a "white" instrument due to bluegrass (she doesn't say this in a bad way). Recent article in Smithsonian about her.
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Post by Toryn on Sept 24, 2019 15:27:22 GMT -5
I like hearing from Dwight Yoakum; he is touring if you want to see some Bakersfield music. At the National in Richmond Nov. 7.
Also Marty Stuart is heavily featured--he is a real student and historian of the music as well as a good musician; I commend his recent album Saturday Night/Sunday Morning--a double CD set where the first (Saturday) is raucous bar music and the second (Sunday) is church--also raucous!
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Rhiannon Giddens is awesome. She just played here in Asheville on Sunday nights. The tickets went on sale the Thursday of Lockn' and were completely sold out by the time I tried to get mine a few hours later.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 24, 2019 16:32:02 GMT -5
Hearing about the letter his mother wrote to him was heartbreaking.got a whole new appreciation for Kristofferson, who I previously (wrongly) regarded as a two-hit-by-other-people wonder. The accolades by the others in the music business were amazing, and his background--college educated Rhodes scholar chucks it all to be a janitor in a Nashville recording studio....
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Post by lobster on Sept 24, 2019 20:07:46 GMT -5
Hearing about the letter his mother wrote to him was heartbreaking.
I believe Ray Wylie Hubbard wrote redneck mother. He was in Bristol this past weekend, I did not make it.
I have alotta catching up to do but it is on the dvr.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 25, 2019 8:05:25 GMT -5
last night they discussed some of the same topic Kuriti and I were saying above, when non-country popular music moves into and displaces traditional styles. Example was Olivia Newton John beating Loretta and Dolly for best female vocalist at CMA. Some embraced it; some hated it; no one could stop it. Bands like the Burrito Brothers mixed it up a lot.
Last episode tonight I think. Sad!
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