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I found that to be the case with buying dry ice. Also fellow campers nearby are happy to split a bag with you, so you can stretch it out. However, I like the frozen bottles because they keep my food dry. Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
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Post by Sneake on Jun 30, 2019 0:19:02 GMT -5
Another good method is to fill ziplock bags with water and freeze them. It gives you thin squares that you can fit between 6 packs, etc. I used to do dry ice, but the cost wasn't worth it. Also, be careful putting items too close to the dry ice. I've had things freeze solid that were too close.
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Post by jrtmom on Jun 30, 2019 0:27:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I've had cans of pop freeze and split open causing a mess in the cooler. Also, be careful putting items too close to the dry ice. I've had things freeze solid that were too close.
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Post by drunkendave on Jul 1, 2019 17:14:16 GMT -5
Frozen Margaritas for the win! Another good method is to fill ziplock bags with water and freeze them. It gives you thin squares that you can fit between 6 packs, etc. I used to do dry ice, but the cost wasn't worth it. Also, be careful putting items too close to the dry ice. I've had things freeze solid that were too close.
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Post by smosey wales on Jul 3, 2019 15:46:45 GMT -5
"..if the lid of your cooler features cup holders, consider putting a plug made of insulating material like styrofoam at the bottom of them. (Or, if you don't use them, consider filling them up with spray foam or memory foam!)..."
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Post by longhair1218 on Jul 4, 2019 17:33:53 GMT -5
If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
Post by longhair1218 on Jul 5, 2019 5:09:29 GMT -5
It's not like your in the wilderness and the ice has to last.
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Post by smosey wales on Jul 5, 2019 10:36:00 GMT -5
If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
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Post by kuriti on Jul 5, 2019 10:57:58 GMT -5
Because, men.If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
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Post by hondo on Jul 5, 2019 13:43:13 GMT -5
Hey, I resemble that.Because, men.If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
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Post by smosey wales on Jul 5, 2019 13:58:04 GMT -5
I think he owes you an analogy
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Post by longhair1218 on Jul 5, 2019 14:36:26 GMT -5
The frozen water bottle is one I use and it works great.
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Post by uʞɔo˥ewbn on Jul 5, 2019 19:11:27 GMT -5
It is a point of pride for me that at the last 2 Lockns I made all my own cubes & blocks of ice and didn't need to buy any all weekend. I have access to an empty freezer at work with an ice maker and it takes a minute a couple times a week to fill it with ice. If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
Mr. longhair1218 and Mr. Bird700level can feel free to buy me a bag of ice this year that I hopefully won't need and I will top off my neighbor's coolers like a hero. Oh wait. Sneake and lobster were my neighbors the last 2 years. Fuck those guys. They can buy their own ice.
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Post by lobster on Jul 5, 2019 19:31:33 GMT -5
It is a point of pride for me that at the last 2 Lockns I made all my own cubes & blocks of ice and didn't need to buy any all weekend. I have access to an empty freezer at work with an ice maker and it takes a minute a couple times a week to fill it with ice. If you cant afford a extra one or two bags of ice over the course of a festival weekend maybe you should reconsider. The amount of time and money spent to make ice last a extra day probably cost more than a extra bag of ice.
Mr. longhair1218 and Mr. Bird700level can feel free to buy me a bag of ice this year that I hopefully won't need and I will top off my neighbor's coolers like a hero. Oh wait. Sneake and lobster were my neighbors the last 2 years. Fuck those guys. They can buy their own ice.
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On the topic of ice I usually just prechill my cooler (coleman extreme marine 70qt) and include some frozen bottles with a bunch of ice. Usually need a half bag on Saturday or Sunday so I can split it with my friendly neighbor.
Post by longhair1218 on Jul 6, 2019 9:09:12 GMT -5
I'd be happy to share ice with my lockn friends and neighbors. I have in the past and will continue to do so.
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Post by suebhunny on Jul 9, 2019 12:54:50 GMT -5
This is especially helpful at smaller BYOB fests. Frozen water bottles make great ice packs for the small "stage cooler" that we fill for our time at the music (and refill with a quick trip to camp as needed).The frozen water bottle is one I use and it works great.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 16:07:30 GMT -5
1. Buy some two inch diameter pvc pipe and some matching end caps.
2. Cut pvc in sections that will fit in the bottom of your cooler with caps on, length wise or width wise.
3. Glue one end cap onto each section of pipe.
4. Fill pipe 3/4 with water.
5. Add a bunch of salt to the water.
6. Glue other end cap on.
7. Put in freezer.
8. Put in cooler.
Water with salt freezes at a lower temperature, thus maybe keeping your stuff cooler longer.
Hondo, our own Owsley, might suggest something common and non toxic that might work even better than NaCl.
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Post by kuriti on Sept 6, 2019 20:19:55 GMT -5
I like the lead up to this guarantee.Sept 6, 2019 16:07:30 GMT -5 @endless said:1. Buy some two inch diameter pvc pipe and some matching end caps.
2. Cut pvc in sections that will fit in the bottom of your cooler with caps on, length wise or width wise.
3. Glue one end cap onto each section of pipe.
4. Fill pipe 3/4 with water.
5. Add a bunch of salt to the water.
6. Glue other end cap on.
7. Put in freezer.
8. Put in cooler.
Water with salt freezes at a lower temperature, thus maybe keeping your stuff cooler longer.
Hondo, our own Owsley, might suggest something common and non toxic that might work even better than NaCl.
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Post by hondo on Sept 6, 2019 20:55:04 GMT -5
Options include said salt waterSept 6, 2019 16:07:30 GMT -5 @endless said:1. Buy some two inch diameter pvc pipe and some matching end caps.
2. Cut pvc in sections that will fit in the bottom of your cooler with caps on, length wise or width wise.
3. Glue one end cap onto each section of pipe.
4. Fill pipe 3/4 with water.
5. Add a bunch of salt to the water.
6. Glue other end cap on.
7. Put in freezer.
8. Put in cooler.
Water with salt freezes at a lower temperature, thus maybe keeping your stuff cooler longer.
Hondo, our own Owsley, might suggest something common and non toxic that might work even better than NaCl.
a 3:1 mixture of water and rubbing alcohol
Vodka/water mixture (I'd keep this one unsealed so I can tap it as is melts).
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 7, 2019 12:42:17 GMT -5
seems you'd need to freeze them on their side, even with the 1/4 air pocket. I've dealt with a lot of frozen PVC in my day.
Also I'd make a brine--heat the water and force in salt to increase the density, cool then fill.
But are we missing something? even though water freezes at 32* it will get as cold as your freezer--should be 0*. So your 0* water ice is the same temp as the 0* brine ice, alcohol mix, etc. and even liquid alcohol (I always freeze my liquor for trips). You could freeze a brick or a block of wood.
Water can't get hotter than 212* but it can get colder than 32*--right? The advantage of different materials is the rate they "melt" or exchange temps.
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Post by hondo on Sept 7, 2019 13:04:21 GMT -5
The two parts of the equation are:seems you'd need to freeze them on their side, even with the 1/4 air pocket. I've dealt with a lot of frozen PVC in my day.
Also I'd make a brine--heat the water and force in salt to increase the density, cool then fill.
But are we missing something? even though water freezes at 32* it will get as cold as your freezer--should be 0*. So your 0* water ice is the same temp as the 0* brine ice, alcohol mix, etc. and even liquid alcohol (I always freeze my liquor for trips). You could freeze a brick or a block of wood.
Water can't get hotter than 212* but it can get colder than 32*--right? The advantage of different materials is the rate they "melt" or exchange temps.
1. The starting temp (i.e., the temperature the mixture freezes).
2. The thermal capacity (i.e., how fast it melts) aka specific heat for physics nerds
If the rates are close, you want something that will freeze at -40 instead of 0°C (notice I didn't note C or F for -40°, that's because it's the point the two lines cross) as it will spend more time in the cold zone.
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Post by hondo on Sept 7, 2019 15:52:22 GMT -5
You could do the salt/water or alcohol/water mix, dump it into a disposable diaper, then place that into the pvc pipe prior to sealing. You've created a gel pack.
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Post by StillLifeStillDead on Sept 8, 2019 11:01:21 GMT -5
The two parts of the equation are:seems you'd need to freeze them on their side, even with the 1/4 air pocket. I've dealt with a lot of frozen PVC in my day.
Also I'd make a brine--heat the water and force in salt to increase the density, cool then fill.
But are we missing something? even though water freezes at 32* it will get as cold as your freezer--should be 0*. So your 0* water ice is the same temp as the 0* brine ice, alcohol mix, etc. and even liquid alcohol (I always freeze my liquor for trips). You could freeze a brick or a block of wood.
Water can't get hotter than 212* but it can get colder than 32*--right? The advantage of different materials is the rate they "melt" or exchange temps.
1. The starting temp (i.e., the temperature the mixture freezes).
2. The thermal capacity (i.e., how fast it melts) aka specific heat for physics nerds
If the rates are close, you want something that will freeze at -40 instead of 0°C (notice I didn't note C or F for -40°, that's because it's the point the two lines cross) as it will spend more time in the cold zone.
Physics nerd here - a change in specific heat results in a temperature change. A change in state (melting) results from a change in latent heat.
Water can be hotter than 212*. It’s just pressure dependent. Increase the psi and water stays water at higher temps. Decrease the psi and water turns to vapor at a lower temp. Water in industrial boilers is 650* or better but at a high psi. At sea level (14.7 psi) water is water between 32* and 212*.
