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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
2021 Festival Cancellations
The Head Chef
Proud member of The unofficial unaccountable FAQ for Lockn
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: 49 Winchester
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by lobster on Aug 31, 2021 17:09:00 GMT -5
Oddly enough I just read that a couple artists have been added to Rhythm and Roots in a couple weeks to make up for some of the dropouts, {Isbell, Yola, Morgan Wade} one of them is Corey Wong which is great but I am still torn about attending when I know they don't really have alot of covid precautions in place and everybody is jammed into little bars and beer gardens.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 1, 2021 12:14:24 GMT -5
Oddly enough I just read that a couple artists have been added to Rhythm and Roots in a couple weeks to make up for some of the dropouts, {Isbell, Yola, Morgan Wade} one of them is Corey Wong which is great but I am still torn about attending when I know they don't really have alot of covid precautions in place and everybody is jammed into little bars and beer gardens.
To add insult to injury, the weather at 'Roo this weekend will be perfect. Well, from the ground up.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by Retired Janitors of Idaho on Sept 9, 2021 16:00:42 GMT -5
2023: will buy Lockn tickets the second they go on sale.
May the four winds blow you safely home.
Cowboy Neal
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dead and Company featuring Johnny Slayer
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by The Other One on Sept 9, 2021 16:47:21 GMT -5
Damn that is tough. More of this to come I'm afraid...
Buy the ticket, take the ride...
the KIND 1/26
Dead Reckoning 1/27
Daniel Donato 2/3
St. Patty's Day Party 3/16
Del McCoury BAnd 4/25
About Time Music Festival 5/3-4
Rooster Walk 5/23-26
Floydfest 7/24-28
Yarnival 10/24-26
Post by rippleinstillwater on Sept 9, 2021 20:55:46 GMT -5
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Marcel Duchamp
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by kuriti on Sept 10, 2021 7:12:20 GMT -5
Lockn': not dying, still Dead
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 10, 2021 9:19:16 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by reckoning on Sept 10, 2021 9:47:21 GMT -5
Post by Flufhead on Sept 10, 2021 18:19:12 GMT -5
Of course, hopefully, vax proof shows this winter will still kick ass without the stupidity.
Post by Retired Janitors of Idaho on Sept 11, 2021 10:38:51 GMT -5
2023: will buy Lockn tickets the second they go on sale.
May the four winds blow you safely home.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 11, 2021 12:07:17 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 19, 2021 9:25:05 GMT -5
Every show has to play. If a band member, even a member of the entourage, gets infected with Covid-19 it's a disaster.
Don't expect the hoi polloi to understand touring, after all they can't understand ticketing, not even the government can understand ticketing, the public thinks that Ticketmaster gets all the fees and the scalpers are such good lobbyists that elected officials end up with a skewed vision of the landscape and no regulations are put into place. But it gets even more complicated, in many cases promoters are in bed with the secondary market, offloading a chunk of tickets reduces their risk. Confused yet?
So the bottom line is these acts that barnstorm across the country, from arena to arena...it's not four guys in a station wagon. It's trucks, carrying production, never mind other infrastructure, both physical and human. It's a business. So, you spend a lot to make a lot. Now more than ever. Belief is the audience won't put up with a show that's only four guys on stage and that's it, that at these ticket prices people expect, demand production, I'm not sure that is true, but that's the standard of the industry, that's the way it is. So, the numbers are big. Let's say you play twenty dates. At best only the last five are profitable. The previous fifteen, even if they all sell out, are all about recovering costs.
Don't feel too bad for the acts, the percentage looks bad on the surface, but those last five dates can be EXTREMELY profitable. But if you have to cancel a few of the twenty for Covid reasons, you're screwed.
This is the dance that's being done now. Especially since acts have gone on the road and encountered this, Kiss and the Doobie Brothers had to shut down, and other performers too. For those acts now on the sidelines, getting ready to go...
So you think the business is back, but the truth is it's still in flux.
But one thing is for sure, the acts that are out there, the big ones, have Covid protocols that will blow your mind. Bottom line, you may work for the band and be unable to see them perform. You've got to stay in the bubble. To make sure the tour can go on, that there are no blips on the radar screen.
The truth is everybody needs the money, but some need it more than others. Meaning there are acts that do less than arena business, who are willing to take the risk, otherwise they're going to go broke. But not all of them. I was speaking to a musician who pulled his tour because it was just too dangerous, he played a couple of dates and then went home. Then again, the next dates on the schedule were in the southeast, he didn't want to play Russian Roulette.
And then there are the no-shows.
This is a phenomenon previously unseen at this level. People who bought tickets but just won't show up, because they're afraid of getting Covid. They don't want to risk their lives for a couple of hundred bucks. The truth is almost nobody wanted their money back from shows canceled in 2020, they held on to their tickets, but now that the dates are playing...some are unsure.
And these people staying home, writing off the cost of tickets, tend to be older. So acts that appeal to this demo take a higher risk in business. Does it make sense to put up a tour now?
What we do know is the fifteen to forty year olds will all show up. Except maybe for those older in the demo who have kids and are afraid of getting Covid and infecting them. This generation feels invulnerable, they believe they won't get infected and if they do they'll live through it, willy-nilly. So they'll show up. Then again, do the acts want to tour everywhere these people are? Already there are acts avoiding certain states. The more unvaccinated, the more the vaccinated are wary of going.
But it gets even worse. It's not only restaurants that can't get help, this is happening in touring too. Sometimes despite being hired, workers just don't show up. And the workers are in control, you can say you're going to fire them because the truth is you're begging them to come at all.
So at some gigs the concession stands can't be fully open. There are fewer merch tables. It's kinda like Brexit, the surface issues are obvious, you think you're immune to the consequences, and then you wake up and you realize you're caught in the quagmire too.
So what is going to happen?
So, Covid infection rates should get worse as the temperature drops. This is complicated. But the more your indoors, the higher the odds of infection. That's one of the reasons the south was hit so hard this summer, because it's so hot and they all retreated inside into the air conditioning.
But will the tours be impacted, will they stop?
Well like I said, the performers are creating leakproof bubbles. Because no one can get infected, it ruins the economics of the whole tour.
As for checking vaccination status...
That varies from gig to gig. I hear constantly from people who say their vaccine card was only barely checked, if at all. They flash their phone, the ticket taker barely glances and they're in. Then I know other shows where the promoter hires a whole new team just to check vaccination status, even asks patrons to show their driver's license to cross-check the information.
Now you can't even do that in every market. Hell, if Texans are beating up the hostess at a restaurant in New York for asking their vaccination status, imagine what it would be like at a gig, where someone has already committed, already paid for their ticket.
Bottom line, the touring business is going to an all vaxxed model, there's just too much at risk. It's not a matter of politics, it's a matter of economics. Furthermore, promoters have the right to do this. Then again, never underestimate the long arm of the law to get involved but...the bottom line is most governments want shows to play, for their economic reasons, it brings money into the community.
No one can state definitively how it will play out, but these are the issues.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by grumbly-one on Sept 20, 2021 20:08:54 GMT -5
7/12 Summer Jam at Watkins Glen 1973 tribute
7/24 Floydfest
8/31 Front Porch Festival
10/24 Yarnival
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Bring back Jacket
Number of LOCKNs attended: 5
Post by VinnieTheEel on Sept 21, 2021 7:17:09 GMT -5
Alas
Hiss Golden Messenger - 12/9
My Morning Jacket - 12/29-12/31
Post by Retired Janitors of Idaho on Sept 21, 2021 10:07:18 GMT -5
2023: will buy Lockn tickets the second they go on sale.
May the four winds blow you safely home.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 21, 2021 16:45:12 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by chinatownshuffle on Sept 22, 2021 8:06:54 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 22, 2021 9:15:48 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Marcel Duchamp
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by kuriti on Sept 22, 2021 11:16:02 GMT -5
Lockn': not dying, still Dead
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 27, 2021 15:03:33 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by Retired Janitors of Idaho on Sept 28, 2021 14:59:27 GMT -5
Red Rocks still on. (The Cathedral of Music).
I’ll leave it to the reader to figure out why.
2023: will buy Lockn tickets the second they go on sale.
May the four winds blow you safely home.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 28, 2021 16:47:52 GMT -5
Red Rocks still on.
I’ll leave it to the reader to figure out why.
<<According to a statement from a Dead & Company spokesperson, “Due to routing and production logistics, Dead & Company is canceling both of their sold-out Florida concerts – October 6th in West Palm Beach, Florida at the iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre and October 7th in Tampa, Florida at the MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre. Refunds will be available. … Dead & Company is looking forward to performing in West Palm Beach and Tampa in the future.”>>
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Give me TTB or give me death!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by suebhunny on Sept 30, 2021 8:49:22 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Sept 30, 2021 11:23:00 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Oct 11, 2021 15:52:40 GMT -5
" The old people aren't going.
We live in an era of data transparency, just check availability of seats for boomer shows om Ticketmaster, they're plentiful. They may be expensive, but in the old days the gigs went clean, now they don't.
It's unclear what is happening in Covid world. Infections are going down in most places, as are deaths, except in a few northern red states, is this the end? Could be, probably not. We know how this ultimately plays out... Monoclonal antibodies, the new pill...the unvaxxed are gonna be saved and then they're going to declare victory, saying they were right to abstain from the vaccine, despite being wrong, but how long will it take?
Its a conundrum. On so many levels America is open for business. Look for masks at sporting events, it's hard to find 'em. But despite so many out in the world, there are so many who are still trepidatious, and they're hurting business, in the concert world, the restaurant world... The boomers are the ones with money, and they'll spend it, but they don't want to risk dying to have the experience.
Talk until you're blue in the face, you can't convince them otherwise. It's an internal feeling, which is different from an antivaxxer belief. They'd prefer to stay home and be safe rather than sorry. Get old enough and you can miss anything. A youngster needs the cereal in the grocery store, an oldster can pass it up, they know life is long and they want it to be longer.
So the concert business is not back.
So many of the dollars are generated by acts appealing to oldsters.
And it's not only concerts, it's movies too.
"Latest James Bond Film Falls Behind Predecessors as Covid-19 Concerns Linger": on.wsj.com/2YztTPI
The hype is so heavy you'd believe that the Bond return is a triumph, proving that Covid is in the rearview mirror, that happy days are here again, BUT THAT IS UNTRUE!
....
We could fix these situations. We could have more vaccine mandates. Then boomers would be willing to pay high prices to go to shows. But until then, many are reluctant. Which is why Dennis Arfa said boomer superstars should stay home until at least next spring. Talk to agents and promoters, tickets suddenly stopped selling. Not completely, but on-sales have dropped dramatically. Not that you'll read this in any trade papers, which are cheerleaders echoing the words of those paying their bills.
We have not returned to normal. We could look at the economic indicators, but the truth is the unvaxxed are slowing down our entire economy. Blame me all you want, but this is something that is covered in the news, not on OAN or Fox, but in the "Wall Street Journal" and "New York Times."
Happy days are not here again. We still need to fight Covid, not only physically, but in the mind. How do industries make patrons feel safe again? We've still got a long way to go."
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB