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Oooh, grill cheese intrigue. And a good grilled cheese can be a religious experience. So wish I could have been there. Initially bailed on the Festy (it was always going to be a game time decision if I went) to go to the funeral of a friend's mom. Had to change those plans after a close buddy lost his fight with depression. Needed to go back home and hug our classmates. Oooh, grill cheese intrigue. And a good grilled cheese can be a religious experience. So wish I could have been there. Initially bailed on the Festy (it was always going to be a game time decision if I went) to go to the funeral of a friend's mom. Had to change those plans after a close buddy lost his fight with depression. Needed to go back home and hug our classmates. Oooh, grill cheese intrigue. And a good grilled cheese can be a religious experience. So wish I could have been there. Initially bailed on the Festy (it was always going to be a game time decision if I went) to go to the funeral of a friend's mom. Had to change those plans after a close buddy lost his fight with depression. Needed to go back home and hug our classmates. Oooh, grill cheese intrigue. And a good grilled cheese can be a religious experience. So wish I could have been there. Initially bailed on the Festy (it was always going to be a game time decision if I went) to go to the funeral of a friend's mom. Had to change those plans after a close buddy lost his fight with depression. Needed to go back home and hug our classmates. Sorry about that. Please do move it if possible or if it's easier, delete it. Posted that before I scrolled up. Damn premature postulation. Wish there was something I could take for that. Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
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Post by hondo on Oct 11, 2016 17:39:58 GMT -5
Moonshine was not the extra grilled cheese guy. That mystery guy tied himself to lobster somehow. But at least he appreciates an amazing grilled cheese sandwich!I remember, but just barely. Musta been cuz of your namesake, lol. Did YOU come back for grilled cheese? Cuz if not, WHO THE HELL WAS THAT GUY?!
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Post by war fart on Oct 11, 2016 18:03:58 GMT -5
Moonshine was not the extra grilled cheese guy. That mystery guy tied himself to lobster somehow. But at least he appreciates an amazing grilled cheese sandwich!
Oh jeez, Hondo. I'm so, so sorry.
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Post by hondo on Oct 11, 2016 18:53:27 GMT -5
Thanks. It sucks for sure. It knocked a lot of us sideways. Still slightly staggered, but haven't been knocked down yet.Oh jeez, Hondo. I'm so, so sorry.
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Post by Andie Bee on Oct 12, 2016 3:58:17 GMT -5
Oh terrible news Hondo. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend and your other friend's mom. Sad days. Good music and friends help. Yo have those here.Moonshine was not the extra grilled cheese guy. That mystery guy tied himself to lobster somehow. But at least he appreciates an amazing grilled cheese sandwich!
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Post by moon on Oct 12, 2016 7:00:12 GMT -5
I'm so, so sorry for your loss. I had two friends who couldn't find their way out from that horrible disease either. One was the "it" girl of our group; gorgeous, outgoing, accomplished, funny, and a complete mess inside. It's a completely different kind of grief for those left behind. Take care of yourself, and let me know if you need to talk about it.
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Post by suebhunny on Oct 12, 2016 11:37:20 GMT -5
Wishing you peace hondo . Being open about these things is the best medicine IMHO. #stopthestigma
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Post by hondo on Oct 12, 2016 16:54:29 GMT -5
Thanks all. I'm making baby steps towards peace. All of us that loved him felt blindsided and that made it so much harder. Those first few days were rough. Two other close buddies and I all felt like we failed him by missing the signs we saw in hindsight. I knew that wasn't the case, but my heart was too heavy to let my brain make that decision. But I do know we weren't to blame. We were lucky that there is a large group of people that loved him so there's lots of folks to lean on.
Going back home for the weekend to see many of our classmates and hug helped a lot, but some serious music therapy is in order too. The perfect cherry on top of the craptastic week was getting selected to serve on a sexual assault jury the last two days. Yesterday during testimony, it wasn't too bad. Having no cell phone in court was a welcome diversion. The 11 Facebook messages, 2 texts, and 5 emails from people checking in on me or looking for info closed that diversion. The verdict deliberations were hard, but the sentencing deliberations were flat out tough.
One of the signs by best friends and I felt we missed was his bailing on this year's Lockn'. He had been a volunteer for the first three and claimed he wasn't a Phish fan as his reason. We talked about that this year and how being with friends is just as important as the bands on the stage.
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Post by war fart on Oct 12, 2016 21:47:41 GMT -5
I'm so glad you understand it's not your fault, hondo. Now I know I don't have to worry too much about you too.
Folks, if you know me, you know that I've never been shy about being frank about my mental illness. I believe we are only as sick as our secrets. I don't wanna make this about me, but I want to both thank and commend you all for never flinching or changing the subject. That's how you win the fight with stigma.
I've talked about this before, but I want to repost here something I recently put on my FB:
"I have so many new friends, I thought it would be a good idea to reiterate my policy: if you're feeling down and you need to talk to someone who will just listen, I'm here for you. Any time, day or night. You won't be a bother, and I will gladly get out of bed. Don't hold it all inside; get it all out. My number is freely available in my profile for just this reason.
I will listen."
Now, obviously I can't put my number out here publicly for any ol spammer to see, but just PM me, and it's yours.
I bid you peace. Especially hondo.
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Post by war fart on Oct 13, 2016 0:37:55 GMT -5
The Other One, is there any way we could spin the less-than-joyous stuff into another thread somehow? I feel like we sucked all the joy out of moonshine's welcome...
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Post by war fart on Oct 13, 2016 13:18:55 GMT -5
Thanks, TOO. I know it wasn't a seamless split, but we scare too many people away as it is. hondo please no worries about the thread getting "hijacked." It's obvious you needed to talk about this, and I'm glad that you did.
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Post by hondo on Oct 13, 2016 13:58:33 GMT -5
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Post by hondo on Oct 13, 2016 14:09:28 GMT -5
The thing that just is so counter intuitive to me is that so many people feel it's a sign of weakness to ask for help, while it's actually a sign of incredible strength. I don't know if that will change until the stigma gets wiped out. Worf is absolutely correct (go ahead and use this line repeatedly in any fashion as needed), in that open discussion is needed. This will help wipe out the stigma.
I'm lucky that I never seem to get in too dark a place. I get my funks, but typically, I find something that amuses me, then I take it to it's completely ridiculous illogical conclusion (because why the hell not?). By that time I'm smiling and on the way back. So being easily amused is a good thing for me. I also use music therapy. There are some Dead shows and Jerry band shows that I can't help but grin when I listen to them.
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Post by southernman on Oct 13, 2016 14:35:33 GMT -5
The thing that just is so counter intuitive to me is that so many people feel it's a sign of weakness to ask for help, while it's actually a sign of incredible strength. I don't know if that will change until the stigma gets wiped out.
I don't know if that is because of stigma or it is the nature of the disease. Its a black hole.
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Post by war fart on Oct 13, 2016 14:37:00 GMT -5
I play the world's worst banjo. So bad that I never bring it to fests, and even sneake has never seen me play. It helps, tho. Public music is fine, but it's more than acceptable to make private music. Lap dulcimers are wicked easy to learn, and you can get one shaped like a guitar. I can also recommend the auto-harp. Maybelle and June Carter both WROTE a lot of music on one.The thing that just is so counter intuitive to me is that so many people feel it's a sign of weakness to ask for help, while it's actually a sign of incredible strength. I don't know if that will change until the stigma gets wiped out. Worf is absolutely correct (go ahead and use this line repeatedly in any fashion as needed), in that open discussion is needed. This will help wipe out the stigma.
I'm lucky that I never seem to get in too dark a place. I get my funks, but typically, I find something that amuses me, then I take it to it's completely ridiculous illogical conclusion (because why the hell not?). By that time I'm smiling and on the way back. So being easily amused is a good thing for me. I also use music therapy. There are some Dead shows and Jerry band shows that I can't help but grin when I listen to them.
Here's Susan's college guitar teacher and Paul Simon's current lead guitar/bandleader Mark Stewart to explain more. He believes that 'the word 'musician' is too often used to discourage people from participating in their birth right as sound-makers, and I couldn't agree more. I swell with pride that this incredible man is my wife's friend, and meeting him in person at a Paul concert may never be topped as a highlight of my life.
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Post by Sneake on Oct 14, 2016 17:06:32 GMT -5
I'm so, so sorry for your loss. I had two friends who couldn't find their way out from that horrible disease either. One was the "it" girl of our group; gorgeous, outgoing, accomplished, funny, and a complete mess inside. It's a completely different kind of grief for those left behind. Take care of yourself, and let me know if you need to talk about it. 
wait, you weren't the "it" girl? lol
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Post by war fart on Oct 14, 2016 21:27:04 GMT -5
wait, you weren't the "it" girl? lol
ikr?
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Post by moon on Oct 17, 2016 10:27:20 GMT -5
Ha! SO far from it! But the It Girls let me hitch along with them. wait, you weren't the "it" girl? lolI'm so, so sorry for your loss. I had two friends who couldn't find their way out from that horrible disease either. One was the "it" girl of our group; gorgeous, outgoing, accomplished, funny, and a complete mess inside. It's a completely different kind of grief for those left behind. Take care of yourself, and let me know if you need to talk about it. 
}Moon Dellah{
Post by moon on Oct 17, 2016 10:32:40 GMT -5
But I do feel compelled to share her with the group, our It Girl. If you have a spare few moments, click the link and learn about her and watch a 3 min video about her time spent as a roller derby performer. I hadn't watched the video since she passed away.
www.rosecityrollers.com/teams/high-rollers/bunny-lepowski-memorial/
She was amazing, and just a few months before she passed away we had what I call a "movie" moment. We snuck out of our ten year class reunion (totally lame) with a few others and sat under the stars in my convertible passing around a bottle of Southern Comfort and laughing. She was so very special, my BV.
She was manic depressive, and after finding online messages her boyfriend had been sending to another girl, shot herself in front of her computer screen, with those messages displayed. The mania won.
}Moon Dellah{
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Post by The Other One on Oct 17, 2016 11:22:02 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing Bunny's story with us.But I do feel compelled to share her with the group, our It Girl. If you have a spare few moments, click the link and learn about her and watch a 3 min video about her time spent as a roller derby performer. I hadn't watched the video since she passed away.
www.rosecityrollers.com/teams/high-rollers/bunny-lepowski-memorial/
She was amazing, and just a few months before she passed away we had what I call a "movie" moment. We snuck out of our ten year class reunion (totally lame) with a few others and sat under the stars in my convertible passing around a bottle of Southern Comfort and laughing. She was so very special, my BV.
She was manic depressive, and after finding online messages her boyfriend had been sending to another girl, shot herself in front of her computer screen, with those messages displayed. The mania won.
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