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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
Post by Island Head on Sept 1, 2014 9:50:50 GMT -5
Sneake
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Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Sept 1, 2014 9:55:12 GMT -5
wow, lockn was nice enough to invite them to sell at the festival to help them out and they are still going to bitch about it?
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Post by Island Head on Sept 1, 2014 10:00:23 GMT -5
I visited Bold Rock last year and bought some great ciders to take back home
www.boldrock.com/ToursTastingsToGo.html
Last Edit: Sept 1, 2014 11:11:12 GMT -5 by Island Head
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 10:02:47 GMT -5
Well just for that I'm gonna be boycotting the wine that I don't drink anyway.
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Post by Sneake on Sept 1, 2014 10:04:00 GMT -5
lol, i thought the exact same thingSept 1, 2014 10:02:47 GMT -5 @wharfrat1490 said:Well just for that I'm gonna be boycotting the wine that I don't drink anyway.
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Post by Genesee Ted on Sept 1, 2014 10:39:27 GMT -5
maybe the wineries need to reevaluate their business plan if they can't figure out a way to make $ off of 25,000 festival goers passing right by their front doors. I'm thinking a roadside stand selling plastic jugs of their finest would sell well to people heading into the campgrounds
Andie Bee
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If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dave Mason!!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by Andie Bee on Sept 1, 2014 10:52:32 GMT -5
Whah, whah, whah.... We'd rather close than risk a couple of days with no sales... Shame on Lockn for bringing potential out of town customers to our area.
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Post by mccjeff on Sept 1, 2014 11:03:30 GMT -5
Forget plastic jugs in the roadside stad. Plastic bags of wine with a big sign that read "SLAP THE PIG!". They would sell out.
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What happens if I take both?
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 1, 2014 11:22:56 GMT -5
as I ssaid before, the Virginia wines at the low end of their price scale aren't worth it. Festies aren't going to pay $20 for ordinary to mediocre wine.
the market speaks; they don't like what it says.
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July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
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katbur2
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If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Trampled byTurtles
Number of LOCKNs attended: 1
Post by katbur2 on Sept 1, 2014 11:28:50 GMT -5
Seriously short term thinking here. The only reason I'm going to be there and add money to their tax base is Lockn'
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Post by WildBill on Sept 1, 2014 11:53:09 GMT -5
Post by whodey on Sept 1, 2014 13:29:23 GMT -5
Make that 3 haha.lol, i thought the exact same thingSept 1, 2014 10:02:47 GMT -5 @wharfrat1490 said:Well just for that I'm gonna be boycotting the wine that I don't drink anyway.
Not a big fan of wine, but every now and then I will try something that catches my eye.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 1, 2014 14:25:10 GMT -5
I drink wine a lot but not at an event like this. Not even bringing a corkscrew. And with the no glass rule, they can't sell any
bottles, which is how they make their money and promote their wares. So they'll set up, do poorly, and whine some more.
Too late to die young
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Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
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Post by jrtmom on Sept 1, 2014 18:40:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I was gonna ask--how can they sell their wine onsite since it will most likely be in glass bottles?
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 1, 2014 19:58:33 GMT -5
also as the article's comments point out, these are two obscure wineries off the track and right at Lockn's driveway, so not a very realistic picture of what other's say.
Too late to die young
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by southernman on Sept 3, 2014 4:55:29 GMT -5
Lovingston and Democracy vineyards both suck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 8:55:11 GMT -5
Most businesses said they didn't make anything extra due to Lockn'. Are most of you guys planning on buying supplies in Nelson County or coming prepared?
We left the fest several times to stop at home and grab a few things or shower. The roads were completely clear friday and saturday, no one ventured anywhere it seemed. We did stop and make purchases in Lovingston, but nothing substantial.
I think the local businesses are still bitter over last year, but they're going about this the wrong way. Instead of negative publicity, they could be getting a ton of business if they did something like a previous poster said and offer free tastings for Lockn' guests. Any kind of incentive, really.
The lady in the article is definitely stretching the truth though. There were more than 2 local businesses, some were from neighboring counties as well but those are still considered local.
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 3, 2014 9:22:53 GMT -5
Events like these always bring mixed benefits and detriments to the immediate area. Even in the tourist areas like the outer banks
and Virginia Beach the natives gripe about tourists, traffic, crowds, etc. when it is their life blood. We have downtown festivals
in Norfolk and many local merchants, such as a book store, complain that the crowds drive away customers--which is true for that day.
What the gripers fail to realize is the benefit from exposure, and that the tax revenue and wages to the local staff is 'the tide that
floats all boats."
Hopefully there is enough local shopping to make it worthwhile for those merchants providing supplies, but there is the realities that
our arrivals may not work, and that we can't rely on the stocks that we know we find at the Evil Empire of Walmart.
Anyway, the subject article was a weak effort and harldly can be taken to represent the local consensus.
Too late to die young
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 10:31:08 GMT -5
When the lumber, coal and dairy industries all faded in my mountain home town, we started trying to attract tourists (we have the Pine Creek gorge, AKA Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon). Even though it shored up the tax base, everyone bitched about the invasions of "downstaters" or "flatlanders." Now they have out-of-state gas drillers to contend with, so they can really bitch.
smosey wales
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 3, 2014 12:14:21 GMT -5
Some people simply can't survive without something to complain about.
Too late to die young
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by lapislee on Sept 4, 2014 0:46:50 GMT -5
Well stated. As an avid wine festival attendee in Central Virginia for the past 25 years I can attest that these two wineries are not well regarded by most serious wine drinkers. If you cannot find a way to take advantage of 25,000 out-of-towners being in your neighborhood for four days you are not promoting your self right.I just can't understand these two wineries. 
If you can't figure out how to profit from thousands of extra people in your backyard, then get out of the wine TOURISM business and go straight to wholesale.
Back when I was doing business development for a VA winery, I would have been chomping at the bit for a major music festival that close. That's where the business relationships with local b&bs, etc come in handy. Lockn is even throwing them a bone by selling their products at the fest.
If they're confident in their wine, why not offer a free tasting to anyone who brings their Lockn ticket stub or wrist band during or after the fest? Lose $5 on my tasting(which they wouldn't have gotten anyway) but make it up in bottle and cheese/cracker sales. Hire a local musician for Monday afternoon for people like me who aren't in a rush home on Monday. Free tasting and one last bit of live music before heading home has my name written all over it. But no, they will close and lose an opportunity. A wise man once said that opportunities sometimes look a lot like obstacles. /rant
smosey wales
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Post by smosey wales on Sept 4, 2014 11:12:28 GMT -5
I'm tempted to print these comments and drop them in their mailboxes.
Too late to die young
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
estprofinhumboldt
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If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Railroad Earth
Number of LOCKNs attended: 2
Post by estprofinhumboldt on Sept 4, 2014 12:13:47 GMT -5
[brI'm tempted to print these comments and drop them in their mailboxes.
You're scared if you don't
feel your way back the day before
