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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Sturgill went on a rant how CMA should not have started a Merle Haggard award since corporate Nashville turned its back on Merle, so Merle left and did his own thing on his own; now corporate Nashville wants to claim him. So Sturgill gets all high and mighty and storms out of Nashville, too--probably just pretend. Everyone tries to be some kind of outlaw but most are what I call pseudo-outlaws. Take it from the Outlaw Smosey Wales. But in his rant he did make some pretty good comments about the bad country music being sold today--much of it even incorporates the rap/urban sound! All that bro-country and formulaic music (and every song has some cheesy hook in it) some in Nashville call "hat acts" that I can't abide either, so I did agree with his point. But a friend who is up high in the industry noted that it simply was not a smart move. BTW I saw Chris Stapleton the other day; he's the real deal, too, and also a hell of a guitar player. Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
So what did you think of Ween?
Old Head
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Post by war fart on Oct 1, 2016 12:31:50 GMT -5
They were not and never have been Lockn headliner material. The only people who legitimately enjoyed over 15% of their Thursday set were hardcore Ween fans. The front page of the Lockn newspaper even had an Umphrey's lyric on it Friday morning because everyone sane knew that they and JRAD were both better. If not for Vulpeck Ween would have been the worst band on both days they played.
Not a hardcore Ween fan. Thoroughly enjoyed both sets.
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Post by war fart on Oct 1, 2016 12:53:56 GMT -5
The biggest joke of all is it's entirely probable they were there at the insistence of Phish. Although I also suspect Shappy is a hardcore fan.
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Post by Flufhead on Oct 1, 2016 16:21:42 GMT -5
If they had mixed both sets up, I'd still be not impressed but reading their intent of what they did has me question their love of music vs copping an attitude that is unbecoming of ANY act.
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, now I don't think they deserved a spot at Lockn at all, and have zero intention of giving them a second thought going forward.
Old Head
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Post by war fart on Oct 1, 2016 17:02:28 GMT -5
They're musical anarchists. I can't put it any better than that.
They're certainly not the only band who doesn't deserve to play at Lockn, headliner or no, if you ask me. But then again I wouldn't blame Dave if he answered my "What is this turning into?" with, "A profitable venture."
I really think the amount of vitriol over this is at least as crazypants and paranoid as any of my mid-summer meltdowns. They're just songs, people. They can't hurt you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 17:05:51 GMT -5
The biggest joke of all is it's entirely probable they were there at the insistence of Phish. Although I also suspect Shappy is a hardcore fan.
You're definitely right about it being all a joke. But I just prefer musicians that treat their craft as more than that. I see some talent in their playing ability, but certainly not in their songwriting. Maybe if they treated it as more than a joke that would come around as well.
Old Head
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If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
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Post by war fart on Oct 1, 2016 17:26:56 GMT -5
Sure seems like anyone who says anything that isn't rainbows and unicorn glitter-farts gets shouted down pretty fast. It happened with Tweedy, it happened to Ween, it happens to me all the time. There's an entire splinter group from this forum that I think attests to that fact. Well, I'd like to point out that tie-dyed fascism is still fascism.
I thought Phish was a total yawn. Admittedly I was crashing on Sunday, but on Friday the ol neuro-receptors were in fine working order and sipping only the most fun of molecules. And I was "meh." That's a pity; I miss enjoying them, and I was looking forward to doing so. I dunno if I grew out of them or what, but I tried to go in with an open mind.
On the other hand, I got my ass handed to me by Peter Wolf. After all the pissing and moaning and making fun, he came out and CRUSHED it. Blew me away. I even liked the Song That Must Not Be Named (Lights Out). Talk about egg on my face! Good thing I'm used to looking like an ass, huh?
Moral: I think we all have very open minds, but could still stand some improvement.
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Post by cherryghost on Oct 1, 2016 18:12:11 GMT -5
Worf, "I really think the amount of vitriol over this is at least as crazypants and paranoid as any of my mid-summer meltdowns. They're just songs, people. They can't hurt you."
Old Head
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Post by war fart on Oct 1, 2016 22:04:10 GMT -5
Worf, "I really think the amount of vitriol over this is at least as crazypants and paranoid as any of my mid-summer meltdowns. They're just songs, people. They can't hurt you."
There's a small fest in PA called Mid-Summer Meltdown (because of course there is, TOO). It seemed like le mot juste.
Lemon juice?
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Post by estprofinhumboldt on Oct 2, 2016 0:14:25 GMT -5
The biggest joke of all is it's entirely probable they were there at the insistence of Phish. Although I also suspect Shappy is a hardcore fan.
You're definitely right about it being all a joke. But I just prefer musicians that treat their craft as more than that. I see some talent in their playing ability, but certainly not in their songwriting. Maybe if they treated it as more than a joke that would come around as well.
I'm liking the Zappa comparison. I hit up ween with a closed mind and they broke through anyway. I liked both their juvenile titles and lyrics that upon further listening discovered deeper shit. Musically they are (IMO I hate having to write that because I'm simply stating my opinion when I write something so I may never do it again )--back to my point--fabulous and I'm glad for everyone who rejects them because it will give me more room on the 14th at Bill Graham Civic Auditorium to shake my old bones and feed my inner juvenile. What Worf said, "tie-died fascism is…"
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Post by war fart on Oct 2, 2016 0:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by shineshineshine on Oct 2, 2016 7:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 8:59:33 GMT -5
Precisely. But after giving two sets each to Ween, Vulpeck, and Twiddle I am forced to question Shapiro & Co's tastes for essentially the first time. Maybe it was just a budget thing.
Old Head
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Post by war fart on Oct 2, 2016 12:22:47 GMT -5
Precisely. But after giving two sets each to Ween, Vulpeck, and Twiddle I am forced to question Shapiro & Co's tastes for essentially the first time. Maybe it was just a budget thing.
"A profitable venture."
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Post by cherryghost on Oct 3, 2016 13:52:50 GMT -5
www.jambase.com/article/help-dean-ween-recover-stolen-1961-stratocaster-guitar
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Post by buddy74 on Oct 3, 2016 14:04:51 GMT -5
www.jambase.com/article/help-dean-ween-recover-stolen-1961-stratocaster-guitar
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Post by war fart on Oct 3, 2016 15:08:34 GMT -5
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Post by smosey wales on Oct 3, 2016 17:04:30 GMT -5
Anyway, I didn't read the interview but got the gist. It's not very astute when artists go to the negative like that. Sturgill Simpson did that recently. A few fans may like the bad-ass approach but more will walk away, or not give you a try next time around. No one likes a grump, or a prima donna.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 20:49:46 GMT -5
Anyway, I didn't read the interview but got the gist. It's not very astute when artists go to the negative like that. Sturgill Simpson did that recently. A few fans may like the bad-ass approach but more will walk away, or not give you a try next time around. No one likes a grump, or a prima donna.
What group of fans did Sturgill recently attack completely unprovoked? I must have missed it.
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Post by mccjeff on Oct 4, 2016 9:03:27 GMT -5
What happens if I take both?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by war fart on Oct 4, 2016 10:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by smosey wales on Oct 4, 2016 10:29:12 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
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If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
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Post by smosey wales on Oct 4, 2016 10:38:16 GMT -5
What group of fans did Sturgill recently attack completely unprovoked? I must have missed it.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
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Post by moon on Oct 5, 2016 7:44:21 GMT -5
I've never been prouder of you than I am in this moment, reading this. LOL
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Post by war fart on Oct 5, 2016 7:47:00 GMT -5
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