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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
LOCKN 2023 Rumor Mill Starts Here
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Jan 10, 2023 12:26:06 GMT -5
The venue has such great potential that I hate to see it go unused when there seem to be a lot of possibilities. But not being in the business, I can't say which possibilities convert to probability or feasibility.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: DakhaBrakha 4eva
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by uʞɔo˥ewbn on Jan 10, 2023 13:16:52 GMT -5
Post by grumbly-one on Jan 10, 2023 13:56:44 GMT -5
7/12 Summer Jam at Watkins Glen 1973 tribute
7/24 Floydfest
8/31 Front Porch Festival
10/24 Yarnival
Cowboy Neal
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dead and Company featuring Johnny Slayer
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by The Other One on Jan 10, 2023 14:49:18 GMT -5
Buy the ticket, take the ride...
the KIND 1/26
Dead Reckoning 1/27
Daniel Donato 2/3
St. Patty's Day Party 3/16
Del McCoury BAnd 4/25
About Time Music Festival 5/3-4
Rooster Walk 5/23-26
Floydfest 7/24-28
Yarnival 10/24-26
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Give me TTB or give me death!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by suebhunny on Jan 10, 2023 16:24:30 GMT -5
Post by nershithegnome on Jan 10, 2023 17:13:39 GMT -5
I feel like if they’re not gonna put on events, there’d be a “For Sale Sign” by the road. Surely someone can figure out a booking for the site that would bring in a profit.
Cowboy Neal
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dead and Company featuring Johnny Slayer
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by The Other One on Jan 10, 2023 17:41:10 GMT -5
Yes, because we care.
Buy the ticket, take the ride...
the KIND 1/26
Dead Reckoning 1/27
Daniel Donato 2/3
St. Patty's Day Party 3/16
Del McCoury BAnd 4/25
About Time Music Festival 5/3-4
Rooster Walk 5/23-26
Floydfest 7/24-28
Yarnival 10/24-26
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Jan 10, 2023 17:41:19 GMT -5
But the effort and cost to ramp up even a small public event is far more than flipping on the lights and priming the well pump--which requires investors.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by longhair1218 on Jan 11, 2023 14:07:18 GMT -5
Post by nershithegnome on Jan 11, 2023 15:48:01 GMT -5
I’m not very literate in the world of “High Finance” but I assume to write something off, one still has to pay the money out before one can declare it a loss… in which case they are still paying the bills but not getting anything back on the investment beyond lowering their tax liability on their total income which in the case of Lockn is none. Plus there’s the property taxes, those alone have to be enormous and the County & State aren’t giving somebody a pass on those, they pay for schools, roads, services, etc… a local gov’t can’t cut Lockn a break if they aren’t putting on events to generate revenue for local businesses through their events. That’s usually the trade off for the tax break. Basically what I’m asking is how do write off something like that… you can’t just not pay the mortgage, the insurance premiums or the property taxes… the bank would seize the land and the gov’t would have a lien on it or force a sale… you can’t (as I understand it) just not pay your bills & taxes and then write it off, I don’t think that’s how it works. I think the word for that is bankruptcy.
Post by grumbly-one on Jan 11, 2023 16:03:31 GMT -5
There are plenty of people that have huge amounts of property and don't farm or use it for business purposes.
7/12 Summer Jam at Watkins Glen 1973 tribute
7/24 Floydfest
8/31 Front Porch Festival
10/24 Yarnival
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Jan 11, 2023 16:44:18 GMT -5
I’m not very literate in the world of “High Finance” but I assume to write something off, one still has to pay the money out before one can declare it a loss… in which case they are still paying the bills but not getting anything back on the investment beyond lowering their tax liability on their total income which in the case of Lockn is none. Plus there’s the property taxes, those alone have to be enormous and the County & State aren’t giving somebody a pass on those, they pay for schools, roads, services, etc… a local gov’t can’t cut Lockn a break if they aren’t putting on events to generate revenue for local businesses through their events. That’s usually the trade off for the tax break. Basically what I’m asking is how do write off something like that… you can’t just not pay the mortgage, the insurance premiums or the property taxes… the bank would seize the land and the gov’t would have a lien on it or force a sale… you can’t (as I understand it) just not pay your bills & taxes and then write it off, I don’t think that’s how it works. I think the word for that is bankruptcy.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by StillLifeStillDead on Jan 11, 2023 18:15:38 GMT -5
Post by doctormark on Jan 12, 2023 21:28:37 GMT -5
Post by longhair1218 on Jan 12, 2023 22:14:40 GMT -5
I’m not very literate in the world of “High Finance” but I assume to write something off, one still has to pay the money out before one can declare it a loss… in which case they are still paying the bills but not getting anything back on the investment beyond lowering their tax liability on their total income which in the case of Lockn is none. Plus there’s the property taxes, those alone have to be enormous and the County & State aren’t giving somebody a pass on those, they pay for schools, roads, services, etc… a local gov’t can’t cut Lockn a break if they aren’t putting on events to generate revenue for local businesses through their events. That’s usually the trade off for the tax break. Basically what I’m asking is how do write off something like that… you can’t just not pay the mortgage, the insurance premiums or the property taxes… the bank would seize the land and the gov’t would have a lien on it or force a sale… you can’t (as I understand it) just not pay your bills & taxes and then write it off, I don’t think that’s how it works. I think the word for that is bankruptcy.
those tax attorneys will figure it out
Post by nershithegnome on Jan 13, 2023 7:49:51 GMT -5
As much as I thought there’d be a 40th Anniversary Phish Festival this year (someplace), I’m starting feel like there won’t be… I’m almost positive their doing another “Baker’s Dozen” (maybe even 20 shows) at MSG in July/August. I’ve also heard of a 7 Day run at Hampton for the Fall, but that’s just a rumor right now.
Post by grumbly-one on Jan 13, 2023 8:26:27 GMT -5
7/12 Summer Jam at Watkins Glen 1973 tribute
7/24 Floydfest
8/31 Front Porch Festival
10/24 Yarnival
Cowboy Neal
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dead and Company featuring Johnny Slayer
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by The Other One on Jan 13, 2023 8:51:25 GMT -5
LOCKN FARM LLC
104 WEST 29TH ST 11TH FLOOR
NEW YORK, NY 10001
www.nelsoncountygis.org/#/mwl?zoom=16&location=-78.896297_37.709998
Buy the ticket, take the ride...
the KIND 1/26
Dead Reckoning 1/27
Daniel Donato 2/3
St. Patty's Day Party 3/16
Del McCoury BAnd 4/25
About Time Music Festival 5/3-4
Rooster Walk 5/23-26
Floydfest 7/24-28
Yarnival 10/24-26
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Jan 13, 2023 9:42:51 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Jan 13, 2023 9:52:17 GMT -5
LOCKN FARM LLC
104 WEST 29TH ST 11TH FLOOR
NEW YORK, NY 10001
www.nelsoncountygis.org/#/mwl?zoom=16&location=-78.896297_37.709998
The land you describe is the area where the stage (now) and the old log farmhouse is. I believe there are other parcels besides those 390 acres. For the festival they lease some of the adjoining land (Holland family IIRC)
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by tstat on Jan 18, 2023 17:21:33 GMT -5
www.echolandfestival.com/
It’s 4 hours from me and 10 hours from my Lockn peeps in VA.
If Lockn would just announce SOMETHING, I would get on a plane in a heartbeat. The longer they stay silent, the more it looks like we may move on to a new festival !
Post by nershithegnome on Jan 19, 2023 8:12:02 GMT -5
Phil’s been rolling with that lineup of Mitarotunda & TAB’s horns pretty heavy and it looks like that’s gonna be his lineup for Chicago & The Cap too. So I could see TAB & Goose being the other headliners. Trey and can always fit in with Phil, we can get a TAB/Goose Set from their last tour together and I could see a Billy Strings appearance too. Phil is the next original Dead member he needs to cross off the list and he’s be great for sit in’s with TAB or Goose too.
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Railroad Earth
Number of LOCKNs attended: 2
Post by estprofinhumboldt on Jan 21, 2023 13:01:11 GMT -5
www.echolandfestival.com/
It’s 4 hours from me and 10 hours from my Lockn peeps in VA.
If Lockn would just announce SOMETHING, I would get on a plane in a heartbeat. The longer they stay silent, the more it looks like we may move on to a new festival !
I live almost 3000 miles away and dawdling on the announcement completely rules me out. If they aren’t teasing something by March it makes planning difficult and too risky. Cavefest did it right from my POV. If Lockn continues to dawdle that is going to be our new fest for the right side of the country.
Skull a Roses looks really tempting but it is about 10 hours away. You kids in VA are lucky. We are seriously talking about NC for retirement. But that’s 3 years away for my wife.
OFF TOPIC: I didn’t see anything on the board about PITS
Cowboy Neal
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Dead and Company featuring Johnny Slayer
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by The Other One on Jan 21, 2023 17:40:14 GMT -5
www.echolandfestival.com/
It’s 4 hours from me and 10 hours from my Lockn peeps in VA.
If Lockn would just announce SOMETHING, I would get on a plane in a heartbeat. The longer they stay silent, the more it looks like we may move on to a new festival !
Skull a Roses looks really tempting but it is about 10 hours away. You kids in VA are lucky. We are seriously talking about NC for retirement. But that’s 3 years away for my wife.
OFF TOPIC: I didn’t see anything on the board about PITS
Yea, not a fan of the dawdlin' either. Sure makes it difficult to plan.
Buy the ticket, take the ride...
the KIND 1/26
Dead Reckoning 1/27
Daniel Donato 2/3
St. Patty's Day Party 3/16
Del McCoury BAnd 4/25
About Time Music Festival 5/3-4
Rooster Walk 5/23-26
Floydfest 7/24-28
Yarnival 10/24-26
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: DakhaBrakha 4eva
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by uʞɔo˥ewbn on Jan 22, 2023 8:21:43 GMT -5
Skull a Roses looks really tempting but it is about 10 hours away. You kids in VA are lucky. We are seriously talking about NC for retirement. But that’s 3 years away for my wife.
OFF TOPIC: I didn’t see anything on the board about PITS