Dead and Co Final Tour?

Bill Kreutzmann on drums 4/28/23. Dark Star opener. A shift in creative direction?

I've heard unsubstantiated rumors that Billy and Bobby got into a backstage shouting match at PITS. 

Unless the reason is health related, its pretty shitty to come close to selling out an entire tour and then drop out before it starts.

I'm probably not going to any of these shows anyway, lets just say I have creative differences with Bob.

But any personality, creative, logistical, tempo, endurance, whatever problems should have been known and resolved before they tricked a gazillion people into buying tickets.

All that being said, if some lawn seats pop up last minute for Jiffy Lube and my health is good that week, I'll probably end up going

I think Bobby plays slow because he was never an exceptional guitarist and now he is old and he doesn’t want to screw up a lot. I actually prefer they slow down rather than sound terrible. I have no basis for this opinion other than my own ears.

I kinda agree with you… everybody says Bob Weir is the greatest rhythm guitarist ever… but IDK what the hell that means. To me that’s like saying somebody is the greatest “bench player” in basketball or the greatest nickel back or slot receiver in football… there’s a reason he didn’t play lead, because the other guy was better. He doesn’t even play lead in his own band. I think people make excuses for Bob Weir to compensate for his faults and get involved in hero worship as opposed to being subjective and being honest about his vocals & guitar playing. That said he’s like Willie Nelson, he’s paid his dues and can write his own ticket and do as he pleases.

Bob says don't bother, he's got issues with you too...

Ah, you DO get it!

I never saw The Grateful Dead, I cut my teeth on Phil, The PLQ, The Other One’s & Furthur… and what I liked best were the dueling leads that PLQ always had. Haynes & Herring going over each other and letting Barracco cut loose a lot as well, is what I found I liked the most, that “Dixie Dead” style. I’ve just never been to a show & walked out saying “Damn, Bob Weir was amazing tonight” or “Holy Shit… Bob Weir melted my face tonight”… maybe that’s a product of when I’ve seen him & his age… but I’ve been seeing him since 1999-2000, so I’ve got a decent sample size. Like I said earlier, he’s paid his dues, so he can write his own ticket… I will add, his slide guitar work in the early 80’s after Jerry got all fucked up, on songs like “Minglewood” was really good and something I wish he’d bring back. I think my musical taste are just different, in that Weir may appeal more to the psychedelic sound & filling the space in between notes seamlessly, while melding into the “whole sound” of the band in a mellow, chill, Cali way… whereas I prefer that rowdy, saw dust on the floor of the whorehouse, bed springs bouncing, down south boogie woogie, rhythm & blues, in your face, through your ears & down your throat rage fest with dueling guitars & over the top showmanship. What can I say, I know what I like…

Have not posted for awhile and just lurked a little, so I'm not sure if there was a Bristow "Lube"-specific thread. I recall a few posts about the mysterious sales pattern for the Lube Dead & Co show 6/3. I was in a really rotten mood after trying to get 4 300 section seats first thing in the presale and first thing in the general sale. Both times it appears that tickets were either limited, bought by scalpers, bots, or something. I have some long time insight into ticket sales (and purchases) in both primary and secondary markets btw, not just off the turnip truck, but also some gaps in my knowledge as well, especially the latest changes.

So with all that intro, turns out my possible family group of 4 is now 6, and interest has increased, so we are rapidly checking out the situation. I was going to hope to find a couple last minute miracles or scalper dumps. Some in my group say they are shopping lawn tickets from Ticketmaster official, and I am NOT seeing those offered. Just resales and platinums for reserved seating.

More specific questions: anyone seeing or finding "real and verified" lawn seats for Bristow now, anyone know wtf happened for Lube sales in this crazy 2022/2023 occurence (some other venues remained officially available for months), anyone looking now who wants to trade notes and info?

If this post is too chaotic, it's because I'm rushing to avoid my group from buying scam tickets at what they believe are $120 lawn tickets direct from ticketmaster. I wasn't seeing anything from TM, and nothing at that price readily available, until I just saw some on Seat Geek in that range a minute ago. Cash or trade seems to have tight supply for that night. This whole final tour thing gave me a really rotten taste in my mouth, given that we attended every single previous Dead & Co DC show with no problems getting tickets.