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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
Secondary economy?
Long Distance Runner
“Another glorious day, the air as delicious to the lungs as nectar to the tongue.” - John Muir
Post by doctor on Aug 14, 2014 9:57:32 GMT -5
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Give me TTB or give me death!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by suebhunny on Aug 14, 2014 10:03:02 GMT -5
I can't speak to shirts and stuff. I didn't see that last year, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
6/13-16 Beardfest Hammonton, NJ
7/7 Outlaw Music Fest Hershey PA
7/18-21 4848 Festival Snowshoe WV
8/2-3 Billy Strings Bryce Jordan Center Penn State
8/29-9/2 - Karnival of the Arts (East) Kempton PA
9/19-22 Infamous Weekend Pops Farm VA
Post by southernman on Aug 14, 2014 10:19:49 GMT -5
Post by gratefulone on Aug 14, 2014 10:32:44 GMT -5
It was more word of mouth and 'who' you may have sat with...as these folks weren't displaying or advertising.
It's not like old shows where you had folks just draping stuff over their hood.
We also supported the vendors...albeit when things when down in price!
Deleted Member
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 11:12:13 GMT -5
Post by press on Aug 14, 2014 11:47:10 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 14, 2014 12:00:16 GMT -5
something shared back-- sandwich for a beer, for example.
who knows what small displays one might encounter in GA camping or the parking lots, but I don't picture major cooking going on. I'd like
to fing some stickers, etc. But Loose Lucy is a vendor who sells all that, too.
And with the ABC lurking, and lockn trying to keep them happy, it would be stupid to set up shots tables as is often the case;
as the song goes, if the right one (ABC) don't get you the left one (lockn security) will
I'm old enough to remember dubbing and trading cassettes. Doubt there's a market now....
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Deleted Member
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 12:08:07 GMT -5
I dunno, maybe they had lots of cash or something.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 14, 2014 12:56:14 GMT -5
Let's share some of yours we done shared all of mine...
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Deleted Member
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 13:09:48 GMT -5
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 14, 2014 15:26:51 GMT -5
We're all here because we're not all there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 6:41:41 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 15, 2014 6:51:17 GMT -5
ABC might mess with liquor sales, too, just because they are that way about stuff.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Carlos Santana
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by buddy74 on Aug 15, 2014 6:53:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 7:25:05 GMT -5
It's probably true that rather than pressing charges staff would just shut you down, fests like to try to keep their own house after all, but I'm saying they could press charges if they chose. And of course they could always kick you out, too. Not a chance I'd be willing to take.
I can't speak for VA's laws, but I've looked into them here in PA, and for most prepared foods at least a cursory inspection of your kitchen is required. Even the Amish, who are exempt from some of this stuff, must have ingredient lists attached to their baked goods. And I know for a fact that in PA serving hot food on demand (like out of a camp skillet) is regarded very differently from a bake sale: you have to have a full on restaurant license. That's probably true elsewhere as well.
I suppose you could maybe sell fruit. Most states do not require any licensing or permit to sell fresh produce. The catch is you have to have grown it yourself, but it's gonna be hard to prove otherwise. You'd still be in violation of Lockn's no vending policy, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about being charged with a crime or civil offense.
Post by southernman on Aug 15, 2014 9:21:00 GMT -5
It's actually a pretty complicated question. Virginia has a cottage food law that allows certain foods prepared at home to be sold without a license or inspection. That includes pretty much all baked good that do not require refrigeration. These can be sold at a farmer's market or from home but events such as Lockn are not an allowed sales venue (even apart from the venue organizers approval). Most dried goods, snacks, and condiments are all allowed products but no meat--that requires inspection and a license. Many small bake sales are probably in violation but it is not enforced, if they are selling roadside, etc. I can't find whether violating these vending regulations is a civil or a criminal offense. Pretty bewildering array of regulations so it may depend which one.
The long and short is that it is not allowed under Virginia law at Lockn and the organizers don't want to deal with it and have prohibited it as a condition of your ticket to the event (which is within their right to do so). I'm sure it will still go on. I personally would not want to get kicked out for vending so it is not something I would do. Plus I want to concentrate on enjoying the music. I am sure I may share food with my neighbors at some point during the festival. I'm not judging what anybody else may choose to do.
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 15, 2014 9:52:33 GMT -5
and regs, too, including health, zoning and taxes.
it's all too remote to get concerned about, though, unless you were looking to game the system. Like the beer restriction, pigs get fed
and hogs get slaughtered.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Carlos Santana
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by buddy74 on Aug 15, 2014 14:24:16 GMT -5
Post by goodecacher on Aug 20, 2014 20:32:11 GMT -5
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 20, 2014 21:15:18 GMT -5
We're all here because we're not all there
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 20, 2014 21:46:48 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 20, 2014 22:02:17 GMT -5
We're all here because we're not all there
The Head Chef
Proud member of The unofficial unaccountable FAQ for Lockn
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: 49 Winchester
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by lobster on Aug 20, 2014 22:24:23 GMT -5
Glad I snagged the shirt i chose. Haven't seen another since.
I did recieve a kick down grilled cheese from the guy beside me in the field waiting to get in. Had his grill set up the open trunk of his car. Thanks bro! This dab is for you!