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Welcome to the Lockn' Forum - The home of the original Lockn' Music Festival family!
You won't be able to go into the VIP area - period. VIP are will have a/c'd baths as well as showers. Plus you get an a/c'd tent where they will serve you some food (check the FAQ)....and you will get some preferred viewing. NOTE - There is a VIP entrance and if YOU area the only one without VIP tix...the entire car will be re-routed to the main entrance. Did I miss anything? They areas have security checking - just like vibes with no day folks in camping. With the BS from last year(with one entrance wide-open) ...I'm confident they'll be shut out. Please note: This forum is in no way officially associated with Lockn' Festival or its promoters.
Lock'n vs Bonnaroo
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: BECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECK
Post by jrtmom on Aug 17, 2014 17:00:20 GMT -5
I have Bonnaroo on my bucket list but I'm not sure about going to a fest that has close to 100k people, (the biggest one I've gone to is Floyd Fest with about 15k) so I figured if I could keep my shoit together at Lock'n I might have a chance to enjoy 'Roo. How do the two compare--not just in size but in vibe, music, layout-etc? Is Lock'n anything like 'Roo? Likenesses? Differences? Inquiring minds wanna know...
Has a Lumpy Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: The Word!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by Dylan on Aug 17, 2014 17:13:03 GMT -5
Has a Lumpy Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: The Word!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by Dylan on Aug 17, 2014 18:08:50 GMT -5
The vibes at Bonnaroo and Lockn' are both positive, but a bit different. Bonnaroo has had a lot of time to develop a culture, whereas Lockn' is only entering its second year. Bonnaroo has more community driven art and a greater since of participation. Moreover, there is simply more downtime at Bonnaroo. By downtime, I mean time not spent listening to music. So time spent at Bonnaroo requires more human interaction than Lockn' does. With all that being said, Lockn' has considerably less douche-bags per capita than Bonnaroo.
Bonnaroo can feel like more of a "community," especially since more time is spent hangning out with neighbors at camp or between shows. However, the last two or three years at Bonnaroo, I can't help but notice that everyone isn't on the same wavelength like they used to be. The musical spectrum at Bonnaroo used to be a lot narrower; and as a result, it felt more like a shared experience. Lately I'm finding that some people have completely different weekends than I do. This year I camped next to a group of guys and we literally didn't see any of the same shows.
The Layout
Bonnaroo can be a torture test, especially in the hotter years. Things have been mild the last two or three years, but I've been there on days where temperatures reach the mid to upper nineties. That can really wear you down and is a serious factor to consider. Additionally, the Bonnaroo campgrounds are way, way bigger than Lockn's (especially based on this year). If you are camped "far away" at Bonnaroo, your walk is easily in excess of a mile. Additionally, unlike Lockn', you might find yourself making the hike to and from camp several times a day. One of the primary reasons I love Lockn' is because each day I walk to the venue and get myself situated for 8-12 straight hours of music. At Bonnaroo I often have "gaps" in my schedule where I struggle with whether or not to go back to camp. Regardless of where you are camped, you're guaranteed to do more walking than at Lockn', as you're constantly shuffling from one stage to another to catch your next show.
The Music
Bonnaroo has more musical options, but Lockn' allows you to consume more music per hour. At Lockn', if I don't like the band that is playing, I'm basically out of luck (I know that doesn't apply to latenight this year). At Bonnaroo you constantly have 3, 4, maybe even 5 choices. Unfortunately, this leads to a lot of conflicts and painful, Sophie's Choice-esque decisions. Meanwhile, Lockn' doesn't require you to hop from one stage to another or waiting 45 minutes for the next set, so you can actually consume more music at Lockn' than Bonnaroo.
Key Differences
Of course, there is simply more to do at Bonnaroo. There are a lot of attractions other than music, and you could easily spend the entire day inside the venue (aka "Centeroo") without getting bored for a second.
You need to be way more comfortable in crowds at Bonnaroo. At least, if you want to be up close for any shows. Lockn' looks to be 25,000 to 30,000 people this year. Bonnaroo maxes out at 80,000 people. Shows can get crowded, the campgrounds are daunting to a newcomer, and it can be a lot easier to lose someone. Not only is Lockn' less crowded, it requires less navigation. At Bonnaroo you might have to go from This Tent to That Tent to What Stage to The Other Tent all in one day. (For those who are unaware, that isn't a joke. The stages are actually named What Stage, Which Stage, This Tent, That Tent, and The Other Tent.) No matter where you go at Bonnaroo, there are people EVERYWHERE.
Lockn's Thursday is basically a full day; whereas Bonnaroo uses Thursday to showcase "up and coming" bands, with the festival really kicking into gear on Friday.
Keep in mind, everything I've just said comes from someone who has obsessed over and scrutinized every detail of both of these festivals, so I may be over-analyzing the details. In the grand scheme of things, Bonnaroo and Lockn' aren't that different.
If you can handle yourself at Lockn', there really shouldn't be too many reasons you can't do Bonnaroo. However, Bonnaroo will require a lot more preparation, organization, and responsibility than Lockn'.
If you have specific questions/concerns, I'll do my best to answer them.
Long Distance Runner
“Another glorious day, the air as delicious to the lungs as nectar to the tongue.” - John Muir
Post by doctor on Aug 17, 2014 18:30:22 GMT -5
Another thing that has changed so much about bonnaroo is that there are hardly any sit ins going on now as there are just not as many jambands playing. Used to be u could see les or warren jamming with just about everyone during the fest.
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 17, 2014 18:42:20 GMT -5
The vibes at Bonnaroo and Lockn' are both positive, but a bit different. Bonnaroo has had a lot of time to develop a culture, whereas Lockn' is only entering its second year. Bonnaroo has more community driven art and a greater since of participation. Moreover, there is simply more downtime at Bonnaroo. By downtime, I mean time not spent listening to music. So time spent at Bonnaroo requires more human interaction than Lockn' does. With all that being said, Lockn' has considerably less douche-bags per capita than Bonnaroo.
Bonnaroo can feel like more of a "community," especially since more time is spent hangning out with neighbors at camp or between shows. However, the last two or three years at Bonnaroo, I can't help but notice that everyone isn't on the same wavelength like they used to be. The musical spectrum at Bonnaroo used to be a lot narrower; and as a result, it felt more like a shared experience. Lately I'm finding that some people have completely different weekends than I do. This year I camped next to a group of guys and we literally didn't see any of the same shows.
The Layout
Bonnaroo can be a torture test, especially in the hotter years. Things have been mild the last two or three years, but I've been there on days where temperatures reach the mid to upper nineties. That can really wear you down and is a serious factor to consider. Additionally, the Bonnaroo campgrounds are way, way bigger than Lockn's (especially based on this year). If you are camped "far away" at Bonnaroo, your walk is easily in excess of a mile. Additionally, unlike Lockn', you might find yourself making the hike to and from camp several times a day. One of the primary reasons I love Lockn' is because each day I walk to the venue and get myself situated for 8-12 straight hours of music. At Bonnaroo I often have "gaps" in my schedule where I struggle with whether or not to go back to camp. Regardless of where you are camped, you're guaranteed to do more walking than at Lockn', as you're constantly shuffling from one stage to another to catch your next show.
The Music
Bonnaroo has more musical options, but Lockn' allows you to consume more music per hour. At Lockn', if I don't like the band that is playing, I'm basically out of luck (I know that doesn't apply to latenight this year). At Bonnaroo you constantly have 3, 4, maybe even 5 choices. Unfortunately, this leads to a lot of conflicts and painful, Sophie's Choice-esque decisions. Meanwhile, Lockn' doesn't require you to hop from one stage to another or waiting 45 minutes for the next set, so you can actually consume more music at Lockn' than Bonnaroo.
Key Differences
Of course, there is simply more to do at Bonnaroo. There are a lot of attractions other than music, and you could easily spend the entire day inside the venue (aka "Centeroo") without getting bored for a second.
You need to be way more comfortable in crowds at Bonnaroo. At least, if you want to be up close for any shows. Lockn' looks to be 25,000 to 30,000 people this year. Bonnaroo maxes out at 80,000 people. Shows can get crowded, the campgrounds are daunting to a newcomer, and it can be a lot easier to lose someone. Not only is Lockn' less crowded, it requires less navigation. At Bonnaroo you might have to go from This Tent to That Tent to What Stage to The Other Tent all in one day. (For those who are unaware, that isn't a joke. The stages are actually named What Stage, Which Stage, This Tent, That Tent, and The Other Tent.) No matter where you go at Bonnaroo, there are people EVERYWHERE.
Lockn's Thursday is basically a full day; whereas Bonnaroo uses Thursday to showcase "up and coming" bands, with the festival really kicking into gear on Friday.
Keep in mind, everything I've just said comes from someone who has obsessed over and scrutinized every detail of both of these festivals, so I may be over-analyzing the details. In the grand scheme of things, Bonnaroo and Lockn' aren't that different.
If you can handle yourself at Lockn', there really shouldn't be too many reasons you can't do Bonnaroo. However, Bonnaroo will require a lot more preparation, organization, and responsibility than Lockn'.
If you have specific questions/concerns, I'll do my best to answer them.
one other thing to get used to is the crowd, both the size and the age. even i, at 30, felt old this year. all of my neighbors were early 20's. they were all really cool people and we ended up hanging all weekend, but don't expect the same crowd as lockn.
you'll get a lot of mixed advice on Roo. a lot of people hate how big it's become and how commercial and how many stages there. it's definitely a lot ot take in. Roo was my first festival and it's what got me hooked. i have a feeling i'll be going back for many years to come. i really cant recommend Roo enough. just give it a chance.
We're all here because we're not all there
Old Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: BECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECKBECK
Post by jrtmom on Aug 17, 2014 18:46:43 GMT -5
Sounds like the old Abbott and Costello shtick "Who's on first"
Thanks for the well-thought out answers, everyone! Loves ya!
Has a Lumpy Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: The Word!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by Dylan on Aug 17, 2014 19:06:28 GMT -5
Another thing that has changed so much about bonnaroo is that there are hardly any sit ins going on now as there are just not as many jambands playing. Used to be u could see les or warren jamming with just about everyone during the fest.
Easily one of my biggest complaints about the "changes" over the years at Bonnaroo and another reason why I love Lockn'. Seeing those unique collaborations and special guests really helped add to the magic of the festival.
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 17, 2014 19:10:40 GMT -5
Sounds like the old Abbott and Costello shtick "Who's on first"
Thanks for the well-thought out answers, everyone! Loves ya!
We're all here because we're not all there
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 17, 2014 19:12:01 GMT -5
also to me the long list of bands at the big fests start with a handful I'd like to see, followed with a few that would be interesting but not worth killing myself, then a couple dozen I've heard of, then filler.
So I say, would I really drive that far and pay $1000 to see the three bands I really want to see?
disclaimer: this is not from any experience; just evaluating.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 17, 2014 19:15:54 GMT -5
also to me the long list of bands at the big fests start with a handful I'd like to see, followed with a few that would be interesting but not worth killing myself, then a couple dozen I've heard of, then filler.
So I say, would I really drive that far and pay $1000 to see the three bands I really want to see?
disclaimer: this is not from any experience; just evaluating.
you can speculate all you like, but until you go and experience it, it's really hard to make a fair assessment.
We're all here because we're not all there
Has a Lumpy Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: The Word!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by Dylan on Aug 17, 2014 19:21:10 GMT -5
also to me the long list of bands at the big fests start with a handful I'd like to see, followed with a few that would be interesting but not worth killing myself, then a couple dozen I've heard of, then filler.
So I say, would I really drive that far and pay $1000 to see the three bands I really want to see?
disclaimer: this is not from any experience; just evaluating.
This might be true, depending on your musical tastes. Bonnaroo has hosted some god-awful music in the last few years. However, it is also the place where I saw Paul McCartney. I was literally 15 yards from the front of stage, dead center, in a general admission (non-seated) setting. I can't begin to put a value on that ticket, but it is well in excess of the cost of a Bonnaroo ticket.
Guest
Post by Ernest Hemingway on Aug 18, 2014 7:01:41 GMT -5
I would like to point out that VIP RV at Roo is $225, and is $600 at Lockn. Yes, you get electricity and water at Lockn, but that doesn't seem to be worth $375, especially if your RV is already self sufficient. Also, an RV spot at Floyd with electricity is only $175.
I asked CID about their pricing and they said the RV VIP prices are " in line with other festivals". I say, not really. But I'll be there anyway.
Long Distance Runner
avid concert goers . Try to get to 20 or more shows a year .
Post by arlenentim on Aug 18, 2014 9:06:54 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Look, a squirrel!
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: BIG Something
Post by mccjeff on Aug 18, 2014 12:27:10 GMT -5
If you have never been it is worth the experience.
What happens if I take both?
The Answer Man
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Shakey Graves
Number of LOCKNs attended: 7
Post by Sneake on Aug 18, 2014 17:09:49 GMT -5
We're all here because we're not all there
Guest
Post by Funshine on Aug 19, 2014 9:56:32 GMT -5
Thank you anyone who can enlighten me :-)
Post by gratefulone on Aug 19, 2014 10:07:07 GMT -5
Thank you anyone who can enlighten me :-)
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 19, 2014 10:16:09 GMT -5
I'm hoping I can bring them by my tent site to chill, hold coolers for them, etc., too. Not the whole horde of course.
We've talked about this some before here. The "rule" will be "no non-VIP visitors in VIP areas." So the counter-rule is, don't ask
anyone official. Be subtle. Be cool. I'd like to think that as things settle in, the guys working the gates will use some judgment,
and let you go with the other three to the tent.
The problem they want to prevent is GA people overrunning the bathrooms and showers (which VIP pays extra to have better and less
crowded ones) as well as crowds hanging out b/c it's closer. So (I'm hoping) if you approach the "guard" as not presenting that problem-
even tell them your one non-VIP won't sneak in the showers--they may wave you in.
I'd think the VIP vending, special events, etc will be closely controlled. I'm not planning to hang in those areas rather than with my
tribe, other than to cash in on cheaper beer.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Post by gratefulone on Aug 19, 2014 10:27:16 GMT -5
I'm hoping I can bring them by my tent site to chill, hold coolers for them, etc., too. Not the whole horde of course.
We've talked about this some before here. The "rule" will be "no non-VIP visitors in VIP areas." So the counter-rule is, don't ask
anyone official. Be subtle. Be cool. I'd like to think that as things settle in, the guys working the gates will use some judgment,
and let you go with the other three to the tent.
The problem they want to prevent is GA people overrunning the bathrooms and showers (which VIP pays extra to have better and less
crowded ones) as well as crowds hanging out b/c it's closer. So (I'm hoping) if you approach the "guard" as not presenting that problem-
even tell them your one non-VIP won't sneak in the showers--they may wave you in.
I'd think the VIP vending, special events, etc will be closely controlled. I'm not planning to hang in those areas rather than with my
tribe, other than to cash in on cheaper beer.
With what happened last year...very unlikely that they'd let anyone go 'up' a level who didn't have the wristband too!
Merry Prankster
Look, a squirrel!
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: BIG Something
Post by mccjeff on Aug 19, 2014 11:53:43 GMT -5
Any festival that I have been to that has a designated VIP camping area has security at the entrance. If you do not have VIP credentials you will not be allowed in. That is the entire point of VIP. Can you sneak in? Sure. Is it kind of a dick move? Yes it is. If you want the VIP experience don't screw around, pony up the cash and do it. It it isn't worth it then stay out.
What happens if I take both?
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 19, 2014 22:23:55 GMT -5
Any festival that I have been to that has a designated VIP camping area has security at the entrance. If you do not have VIP credentials you will not be allowed in. That is the entire point of VIP. Can you sneak in? Sure. Is it kind of a dick move? Yes it is. If you want the VIP experience don't screw around, pony up the cash and do it. It it isn't worth it then stay out.
easy, soldier. I paid extra for VIP for the comforts and I don't want a bunch of trolls around especially in the facilities, either. But if at 3 in the afternoon I want to bring a few well-behaved adults from GA/RV to sit in the shade and have a beer and a hot dog, it won't hurt anyone. The guy asked about hanging with his friends, not leaching. I'm hoping they'll exercise some discretion.
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Merry Prankster
Look, a squirrel!
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: BIG Something
Post by mccjeff on Aug 19, 2014 22:29:25 GMT -5
What happens if I take both?
Dark Star
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Trampled byTurtles
Number of LOCKNs attended: 1
Post by katbur2 on Aug 19, 2014 23:28:39 GMT -5
Merry Prankster
Disguised as a squirrel
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: Anyone? Anyone?
Number of LOCKNs attended: 6
Post by smosey wales on Aug 20, 2014 6:33:15 GMT -5
Feb 12 Billy Strings NFK
Feb 18 Marshall Tucker Band Philly
Feb 25 Marcus King Band NFK
April 6 Rosanne Cash NFK
April 15 James McMurtry NFK
April 20 Little Feat VaBeach
April 21 Blackberry Smoke NFK
July 2 Last Fair Deal w/John K VaB
July 23 Dave Mathews Band VaB
July 26 Robert Earl Keen C'ville
July 28-31 Floyd Fest BFE
Sept 24 Southern Culture on the Skids VaB
Nov 19 Dark Star Norva
Dec 3 Sky Dog VaB
Has a Lumpy Head
If I could add one artist to the 2023 lineup: The Word!
Number of LOCKNs attended: 3
Post by Dylan on Aug 20, 2014 6:46:35 GMT -5
Although Lockn' does have more "commuters" than Bonnaroo, I think there were other factors motivating the decision to sell camping passes independent of admission. The promoters are trying to get people to camp "Tent Only" because it is way cheaper to insure. However, they recognize that many people prefer the luxury of camping next to their vehicle, so they wanted to give people options (along with forest camping).